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<h1>Where We Are Now</h1>

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L10n projects can get real big attention from users. For volunteer projects of private people,
that may turn out to bring some problems with growing user interest.
On the other hand, especially as a private volunteer contributor, it can make you even more fond of that
project seeing the little baby of yours grow and grow.
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<p class="sampledesc">An Example: The Mozilla German Project</p>
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In late 1999, working with M11, I discovered that XUL has nice text/code seperation, and tried to dig into it
by changing some strings to German equivalents - <span class="hilite">just for fun</span>. Being the first one
to do this for that language, I stumbled into being the leader of the German L10n project and released
M12 German on 2000-01-01.
<br>A lot has happened since then. The small HTML page I made up for downloading that build turned into a
<span class="hilite">heavily accessed web site</span>, now residing at
<a href="http://mozilla.kairo.at/">mozilla.kairo.at</a>.
<br>In January 2004, that site was accessed by over 740000 different hosts, hitting the main page
just under one million times, the support page (default home page of German builds) had almost 800000 hits.
With 44000 visits of people per day (average), the site produced 20 GB of HTML traffic.
<br>As a student, I'd have some problems paying for the server that hosts all that alone,
and affording visiting FOSDEM as well on my cost would also be not too easy. I'd like to
<span class="hilite">thank all donators</span> of the Mozilla German project for making it possible
to keep the site up and attend here, and my parents as well for supporting me to come here and spend some time
on Mozilla next to studying.
<br>The downloads are hosted by mozilla.org, universities and my student home, and I don't have reliable
download counters for those, so I can't tell any download numbers. From ftp.mozilla.org numbers alone,
it seems to be the <span class="hilite">most-used localization</span> by far though.
<br>The German localization of Mozilla gets included in all CDs of the big German magazine PC-WELT,
the German XPI pack is on the mozilla.org 1.6 CD (AFAIK), SUSE LINUX does include German packs for Mozilla,
and probably it's shipped in various other ways as well.
<br>Two other contributors are shipping translated versions of Firefox and Thunderbird based on that work,
and the German Mozilla newsgroup de.comm.software.mozilla has been split into a hierarchy of 4 newsgroups
because one group couldn't handle the traffic of currently 4000 postings a month.
<br>Recently, I've given an interview for a German SAP magazine, and an Austrian computer magazine asked
me for one as well. It's pretty astonishing...
<br>On the other hand, I'm spending some hours a week answering mails telling users that I'm just a
translator, and I can't do support, pointing them to FAQs and newsgroups.
<br>There are still other problems left in Mozilla itself that bug us L10n people...
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	19	<h1>Where We Are Now</h1>
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	21	<div class="explanation">
	22	L10n projects can get real big attention from users. For volunteer projects of private people,
	23	that may turn out to bring some problems with growing user interest.
	24	On the other hand, especially as a private volunteer contributor, it can make you even more fond of that
	25	project seeing the little baby of yours grow and grow.
	26	</div>
	27
	28	<div class="sample">
	29	<p class="sampledesc">An Example: The Mozilla German Project</p>
	30	<div class="samplecontent">
	31	In late 1999, working with M11, I discovered that XUL has nice text/code seperation, and tried to dig into it
	32	by changing some strings to German equivalents - <span class="hilite">just for fun</span>. Being the first one
	33	to do this for that language, I stumbled into being the leader of the German L10n project and released
	34	M12 German on 2000-01-01.
	35	<br>A lot has happened since then. The small HTML page I made up for downloading that build turned into a
	36	<span class="hilite">heavily accessed web site</span>, now residing at
	37	<a href="http://mozilla.kairo.at/">mozilla.kairo.at</a>.
	38	<br>In January 2004, that site was accessed by over 740000 different hosts, hitting the main page
	39	just under one million times, the support page (default home page of German builds) had almost 800000 hits.
	40	With 44000 visits of people per day (average), the site produced 20 GB of HTML traffic.
	41	<br>As a student, I'd have some problems paying for the server that hosts all that alone,
	42	and affording visiting FOSDEM as well on my cost would also be not too easy. I'd like to
	43	<span class="hilite">thank all donators</span> of the Mozilla German project for making it possible
	44	to keep the site up and attend here, and my parents as well for supporting me to come here and spend some time
	45	on Mozilla next to studying.
	46	<br>The downloads are hosted by mozilla.org, universities and my student home, and I don't have reliable
	47	download counters for those, so I can't tell any download numbers. From ftp.mozilla.org numbers alone,
	48	it seems to be the <span class="hilite">most-used localization</span> by far though.
	49	<br>The German localization of Mozilla gets included in all CDs of the big German magazine PC-WELT,
	50	the German XPI pack is on the mozilla.org 1.6 CD (AFAIK), SUSE LINUX does include German packs for Mozilla,
	51	and probably it's shipped in various other ways as well.
9a6b9067	52	<br>Two other contributors are shipping translated versions of Firefox and Thunderbird based on that work,
3288eeda	53	and the German Mozilla newsgroup de.comm.software.mozilla has been split into a hierarchy of 4 newsgroups
	54	because one group couldn't handle the traffic of currently 4000 postings a month.
	55	<br>Recently, I've given an interview for a German SAP magazine, and an Austrian computer magazine asked
	56	me for one as well. It's pretty astonishing...
	57	<br>On the other hand, I'm spending some hours a week answering mails telling users that I'm just a
	58	translator, and I can't do support, pointing them to FAQs and newsgroups.
	59	<br>There are still other problems left in Mozilla itself that bug us L10n people...
	60	</div>
	61	</div>
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