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25Well, let's make it a small bit less geeky ;-). So what has happened in the last year of Mozilla L10n?
27 <li class="minus"><b>big manual localeVersion change patches</b>: locale packs from different Mozilla versions are incompatible because of
28 changed, added or removed texts in the UI. To avoid crashes or other side-effects, we have internal
29 versioning of locale in chrome registry, fed into it by contents.rdf files.
30 <br>Those were <span class="hilite">previously hardcoded</span> and I did big manual patches to change them. After I found a way to
31 insert the versions at build-time and patched the whole tree to do that using the C preprocessor
c9fb8495 32 (<a href="" title="automate localeVersion updates based on milestone.txt">bug 154927</a>),
3288eeda 33 I was told we should use the <span class="hilite">XUL preprocessor</span>. I made that change recently
c9fb8495 34 (<a href="" title="Use the XUL preprocessor for build-time inserting of localeVersion strings">bug 232011</a>)
3288eeda 35 and set tinderboxen on fire (as some of you may remember)...
36 <br>After some help from tinderbox admins and bsmedberg (who had to fix for a bug I triggered),
0437d853 37 we should now have that long-standing bug finally resolved (and themes will follow that way soon -
c9fb8495 38 <a href="" title="Use the XUL preprocessor for build-time inserting of skinVersion strings">bug 234014</a>).
3288eeda 39 <br>BTW, all chrome version strings are now defined in
40 <a href="">mozilla/config/</a>.</li>
41 <li class="minus"><b>XPI error -239</b>: When installing our <span class="hilite">locale XPI files</span>, we often ran into XPInstall
42 error -239 (CHROME_REGISTRY_ERROR), especially on unix machines. This had been happening quite
c9fb8495 43 frequently for at least 18 months
44 (<a href="" title=" Install error -239 registering chrome on some systems">bug 109044</a>),
3288eeda 45 and noone had an idea why that happened, when it started magically disappearing in some cases last summer.
46 <br>DocWilco then <a href="">filed a patch</a>
47 for a case where he was still seeing (and which was "a tough one to crack"), and we didn't hear a lot about
48 that error again. He also <a href="">improved reporting</a>
49 of what happens when it still hits a -239 in a followup.
50 <br>Another nasty <span class="hilite">problem is history now</span>.</li>
51 <li class="plus"><b>more attention to L10n</b>: Starting with last December, L10n got more attention of
52 staff than in previous times. It all started with a staff meeting on 2003-12-08 (see the
53 <a href="">"minutes" posting</a>):
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55 *Localisation packs*
57- Quarterly/monthly <span class="hilite">IRC meetings</span> for l10n (blizzard, bart)
58- What is our end goal for internationalization?
59- <span class="hilite">Goal: 5 or 6 languages we ship pretty regularly</span>, of reasonable to good
60 quality
61- Start incrementally
63- Agreed: <span class="hilite">translations need to be in CVS</span>; too separated from release
64 process
66- chofmann to write a message to l10n newsgroup:
67 - 1) Tell people how to nominate bugs to drivers
68 - 2) Mention monthly IRC chat, hosted by chofmann
69 (gerv query: what time to have this? Hard to pick one which is
70 good for everyone, because of timezone issues)
71 - 3) If you have a localised version ready 1 week after 1.6, let us
72 know now (or then) and we'll try and get it on the CD.
73 - 4) There will be a <span class="hilite">string freeze after beta</span> - it's a done deal
74 - 5) We want your localisation by 1 week after our planned release
75 date (But CD gets burned 2 days before we release)
77- We need a simple post-freeze string change process - Bugzilla keyword,
78 post to newsgroup etc.</pre>
79 The first L10n IRC meeting was on 2003-12-15, The 1.6 CD shipped with a few important / finished-in-time
80 localization XPI packs, we're still hoping further actions will happen. The first string freeze (1.7b -> 1.7)
81 is still to happen, and getting translations into CVS is actually a quite old bug report,
c9fb8495 82 <a href="" title="Translations should be in CVS">bug 57878</a>,
83 that still doesn't have much attention, as well as the one for
84 getting German L10n into CVS
85 (<a href="" title="Get German/de-AT translation into CVS">bug 179949</a>).
3288eeda 86 <br>Let's hope the positive movement of December can be carried on into the future.</li>
87 <li class="plus"><b>Mozilla Europe</b>: Just last week, the <a href="">Mozilla Foundation Europe</a>
88 has been launched, having a <span class="hilite">multi-language web site</span>, and that probably will
89 <span class="hilite">attract even more users</span> to localized versions of Mozilla and its derivates.
90 <br>We'll see what this means to our L10n projects...</li>
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